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Mark W



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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 11:27 am    Post subject: Offside Reply with quote

For those who have questions about the offside, below is a link to the FIFA interactive offside tutorial. Click the link to see examples of offside.

http://www.fifa.com/en/comp/Offside.html



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Gitters



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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question for all of you...

What are the exceptions regarding Law 11 (not in offside position). Think on this one. Mark...leave it to the youngins'


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sad Well I do not like to answer my own question, but I will give you a couple and hope that anyone who is out there can answer the remaining...

The Ball
Goal Kick
Corner Kick
Throw In

There is 1 more...please one person has to be able to get this one Wink


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright. Fine. I'll answer, since no one else seems to want to.

Are you saying there is one more regarding the ball? I'm kind of confused. I'll give one more exception, but at least 1 more remains...

The law clearly states "at the moment the ball touches or is played by one of his team,"

So, if a ball is played to him by a defender, with the exception of an completly unintentional deflection, he is not offside.

Theres one more left. Smile


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not bad Callin, but that is not 1 of the 5 exceptions. If you look a little harder you will see that they are; the ball, goal kick, corner kick, throw-in, and the HALF WAY LINE! Laughing

But you are also correct...that is, if a defender intentionally passes a ball towards his own goal where an attacker who was in the offside posisition recieves the ball, it would not be deemed an offside offense. Good thinking out of the box, Callin!


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still don't know what you mean by 'the ball,' being an exception. Do you mean that when you are behind the ball, you cannot be offside? The half-way line was the one exception that I said still remained.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to imagine the ball as a line in itself, as long as the player(s) are parallel or behind it when the ball is played by a teamate, they would not be in an offside position.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gitters wrote:

There is 1 more...please one person has to be able to get this one Wink

ok, if you insist...how about receiving the ball directly from a dropped ball.

However, the way the original question is posed it sort of mixes the so called "points of fact" and points of "opinion" based on which the offside decision is made.

Points of fact refer to the criteria that determine the position of the player, ie., you cannot be offside position in if you receive the ball directly from a goal kick or dropped ball.

Points of opinion refer to the ref's opinion when makes the decision as to whether or not a player in an offside position violates the letter (ie., interfering with active play, an opponent, etc.), or spirit of the offside law.

Any examples in violating the spirit of this law?
Angelos




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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fisher man you gotta think outside the box man hint hint!!


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guest wrote:
Any examples in violating the spirit of this law?

One that comes to mind is when the second last defender, caught out of position, intentionally leaves the field of play to leave the nearest onside attacker, who's about to receive the ball, in an offside position.
The defender should get cautioned for USB.
Angelos


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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One that comes to mind is when the second last defender, caught out of position, intentionally leaves the field of play to leave the nearest onside attacker, who's about to receive the ball, in an offside position.
The defender should get cautioned for USB.


Would you caution at the next stoppage or blow it down and give an IFK restart?



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Would you caution at the next stoppage or blow it down and give an IFK restart?

If you blow it down you would be rewarding the team that committed the offence. You allow the attack(er) to go on and caution the offender at the next stoppage.
Angelos


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you really giving an advantage to the offending team? Seems to me there is potential for an free kick in a dangerous position, even if it is indirect. Of course that's assuming the ball is near the goal when play is stopped.



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark W wrote:
Are you really giving an advantage to the offending team?

No, the advantage is always given to the attacking team.

See 2006 Q&A Law 11, item 3.

Angelos


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Without looking at the question I believe it is the one for the scenario where a defender steps off the pitch, a shot is taken with an attacker now in an offside position. The ball is cleared...caution defender at next stoppage. I'm fine with that.

But what happens if instead of the shot being cleared, the ball is received by the attacker who is left 'offside' by the defender who has left the pitch? On one hand you'll have one team shouting for offside. The other team shouting at the guy who left the pitch. What decision should be made now?



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